I love this!
I would also add geoomsmen and bridesmaids........they were supposed to confuse possible hoarders or something?
Platers is awesome
Lisa rose, explain neckties and flying kites por favor.
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List of "pagan" things JW's allow
by problemaddict 2 inwhat i'm looking for specifically is things that are "pagan" in the sense they predate christianity (or i guess judiasm to cover the ole mosaic code), that jw's allow or do.
the ones that come to mind are below.. rings - rings seem to originate in egypt.
for wedding ceremonies it became a symbol of "ownership" in rome.. pinatas - looks like possibly it originated in china as a part of the new year and a request for luck, and catholics later turned it into a beating of temptation type thing.. anything else?.
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Ugh. Common sense anyone?
We all are varying degrees or good or bad, bit comparing johad extremism with less lets say......violent forms of belief.....is not productive IMO.
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Hilarious video on JW GT video
by Samuel inthis video is hilarious, had to share - skip to 12:20 .
https://youtu.be/nelt0zhl2og.
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Good video. I like the added touches. A tiny bit more wordsmithing on the substance, and maybe 10 min. That is the,sweet spot. 40-60 min videos (unless its a JC on tape) are for the birds. Who has time?
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WT Article - David Versus Goliath—Did It Really Happen?
by ttdtt inhttps://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/watchtower-no5-2016-september/david-versus-goliath-real/.
the article ends with this:.
there is no real basis for doubting the truthfulness of this historical account.
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Malcom Gladwel had a book entitled David and Goliath. He doesnt question the actual account, but suggests there are good reasons to believe Goliath wasnt all that. That he too has the same pituitary gland disorder which can also cause diplopia (double vision), which would explain why Goliath says "so you come to me with sticks" (plural), when david only has his staff. Also, he had a shield bearer, which would possibly indicate some other restrictions related to that disorder. I cant think of the name.
His point is more about how seeming advantages can be disadvantages, and vice versa, using this story as a set off point with things not being as lopsided as they may have seemed. It was pretty interesting.
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UPDATE: My existential crisis comes to a close
by Freeandclear inin case you read my other thread regarding my existential crisis and how it was making my life miserable and left me feeling hopeless, purposeless and joyless i though i'd share what's recently happened to me and my way of thinking and have i've for the time being resolved my existential crisis.
i write every day in a journal.
i've been doing this for years.
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Well done. Believe what you need to, in order to function and be happy. When you are dead, if there is nothing, then you won't even know.
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List of "pagan" things JW's allow
by problemaddict 2 inwhat i'm looking for specifically is things that are "pagan" in the sense they predate christianity (or i guess judiasm to cover the ole mosaic code), that jw's allow or do.
the ones that come to mind are below.. rings - rings seem to originate in egypt.
for wedding ceremonies it became a symbol of "ownership" in rome.. pinatas - looks like possibly it originated in china as a part of the new year and a request for luck, and catholics later turned it into a beating of temptation type thing.. anything else?.
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Anyone want to help me with this? What I'm looking for specifically is things that are "pagan" in the sense they predate Christianity (or I guess Judiasm to cover the ole mosaic code), that JW's allow or do. the ones that come to mind are below.
Rings - Rings seem to originate in Egypt. For wedding ceremonies it became a symbol of "ownership" in Rome.
Pinatas - Looks like possibly it originated in China as a part of the new year and a request for luck, and Catholics later turned it into a beating of temptation type thing.
Anything else?
(I would have added human sacrifice, but specifically I am using this to be able to point out specific inconsistencies and that argument may not be appreciated by my audience)
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Today's Text - Shun Your Disfellowshipped Family Members & Friends!
by Divergent inyet another sickening reminder for jw's to use emotional blackmail!.
wednesday, june 22. stop keeping company with anyone called a brother who is sexually immoral.—1 cor.
5:11.. a heartrending experience for aaron’s family is recorded at leviticus 10:1-11. they must have been devastated when fire from heaven consumed aaron’s sons nadab and abihu at the tabernacle.
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What is interestib to me, is they are certaimly making a push for people to shun properly. Meaning it must be a problem and possibly in their minds is causing those people to not come back.
They have however also lightly pointed to faders, as potential shun targets. Not directly......but its there. So the way this is starting to go in the minds of the rsnk and file is to shun df'd ones (no brainer), but to ALSO shun those that SHOULD be df'd (in their minds). Meaning the ones that dont go bu they would say "know better". Or the ones that are off the radar but may celebrate a birthday.
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Need some help: Existential crisis in full swing
by Freeandclear inso is anyone else having an existential crisis after becoming fully awake?
let me explain.
about 2 years ago i read coc, still believed and tried to get back in da troof.
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But there are new Star Wars movies! Stuff to look forward to is my point. things you enjoy for the sake of enjoyment. No?
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Why Are You Here?
by Believer ini'm wondering why believers remain members of this forum which is clearly hostile to believers.
as one member said, nonbelievers pounce on any semblance of belief like piranhas on prey.
as former jws we should have had our fill of judgmental know-it-alls, but here we are.
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I am not much of a believer recently, but I am still finding my way. I would encourage you to think of things a little more openly. Conversation is just conversation. What makes the conversation hostile....that it is in opposition to how you think and feel?
The time where people could not think differently about of a variety of subject and coexist was a dark time in my life in retrospect.......you see where I'm going here.
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"Confidentiality" of Elders!
by stuckinarut2 insomething struck me the other day.. elders are told to maintain confidentiality with regard to the details of judicial cases or congregation "discipline" in an attempt to dignify individuals etc.. this is even the case for known child abusers!.
yet, if they suspect someone of being an "apostate", for instance being a member on this forum, they will spread such information far and wide, through the witness "grape vine" to congregations miles away (or even in other countries).
so, does that mean they place more importance on "apostasy" rather than child abuse?.
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Elder confidentiality is an oxymoron.
Certainly in practice these guys by and large can't be trusted to not talk to their wives and children about little suzie or brother jimmy's indiscretions. However even the ones that aren't prone to being gossiping children, find themselves systemically contributing to this. How?
When someone is accused of something, or a rumor is floated, or someone might have said something negative, someone might have had too much beer.......you name it......they NEVER encourage the person complaining to apply matthew 5 and talk to the person. They ALWAYS bring this info up at the elder meeting, and brothers are assigned to speak to the person. Lets say it was completely false. Does it matter? No the entire body has already heard the accusation,a nd follow up is scant or "bro ___ accepted the counsel with humility". If you argue accuracy, its not like its reported...."we were wrong, should have encouraged the 2 grown ass people to speak to each other, its our bad".
Nope.....elders can slander others to other elders with impugnity.
Anyone serving probably has heard the phrase...
Elder to elder.